tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post1197528662898919152..comments2023-12-26T10:22:04.630-05:00Comments on Things of My Soul: Rediscovering Passion in Our WorshipPapa Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-45798209311268651702009-07-09T19:03:32.586-04:002009-07-09T19:03:32.586-04:00Amen! Passion is important! Emotion motivates. B...Amen! Passion is important! Emotion motivates. But I think that if we are going to use passion, it has to be of the inspiring variety, something that moves us with a vision of what we can become, something that gives us a glimpse into the eternities.Michaela Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-11867195055676244152009-07-01T18:35:43.966-04:002009-07-01T18:35:43.966-04:00Sorry, I meant to say that the place for **extende...Sorry, I meant to say that the place for **extended** metaphors is not Sacrament Meeting. Those that can be shared in less than 2 minutes and are on topic are fine in that setting - again, as Ian notes, as long as they illuminate the main point of the talk.Papa Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-19589887660417111202009-07-01T18:34:07.526-04:002009-07-01T18:34:07.526-04:00adamf, I agree that metaphorical stories can be po...adamf, I agree that metaphorical stories can be powerful without being manipulative, but I also agree that their place is NOT in Sacrament Meeting - or any other non-instructional setting. I also agree that any good metaphor can be shared in 2 minutes or less. <br /><br />As Ian said, there absolutely is a place. It's the execution that bothers me in many cases. <br /><br />NSG, Amen. I Papa Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-44345946741794020582009-07-01T14:23:57.055-04:002009-07-01T14:23:57.055-04:00Hey, that's my shtick! The joke at the beginni...Hey, that's my shtick! The joke at the beginning that is.<br /><br />I don't know about the fictional story thing. The savior taught in parables, which by definition is a fictional story. I think that's a really good way to express a point. However, those parables should definitely help the listeners relate to the topic and not be just a nice story.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17109430531198187222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-78551797283711871152009-07-01T12:13:34.080-04:002009-07-01T12:13:34.080-04:00I think that we as a church really need to work on...I think that we as a church really need to work on steering away from platitudes and niceties in our talks (obligatory joke at the beggining, etc) and talk about things that are Real to us. I think a lot of people do this, and I feel like I really benefit when the speaker (or gospel doctrine teacher, or YW-lesson presenter) feels they have a real message to share and a challenge to give.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3199387660357003170.post-28212549389263399702009-07-01T00:40:06.287-04:002009-07-01T00:40:06.287-04:00This makes me think of another issue related to st...This makes me think of another issue related to striking the balance in our talks--the use of metaphor. While on one hand they can be powerful when teaching or expressing an idea, if taken to an extreme they can turn into what Stephen Robinson calls spiritual Twinkies. You can tell this is happening when the speaker is telling a fictional story that takes up the bulk of their talk, and they get adamfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06177880599252455507noreply@blogger.com